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buzznitro
New Member
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 23 August 2010 : 22:46:15
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Hi fellas for the racers that do not know, um me, please can you tell me the requirements for the trucks to race?
are we allowed to mod??
can we use a different make? etc.
details would be great!
Thanks steve |
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grasshopper
Senior Member
1652 Posts |
Posted - 24 August 2010 : 00:30:06
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| Like most things, it seems even electric short course trucks have a limit to how much 'modding' they can handle. At the moment there are no hard and fast rules - it's a case of 'run what you brung' |
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buzznitro
New Member
United Kingdom
17 Posts |
Posted - 24 August 2010 : 07:10:49
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hi Phil ok so are these 1/10 scale losi strike for example?
looking at a team associated truck. never raced, sorry, drove an electric car before so just wondering what to look out for? |
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grasshopper
Senior Member
1652 Posts |
Posted - 24 August 2010 : 09:07:36
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Oops, Yes Mate, 1/10th scale Short Course trucks - there are a few Losi Strikes at A1 (make sure you get the uprated drive shafts-the originals were weak ), I went with the SC10 from Associated (and it handles really well). The Blitz is supposed to be good too.
According to the 'experts' the RTR's are plenty quick enough, being mostly 2 wheel drive there is an issue with traction when you over power them - and the racing will be closer and more amusing if they're all about the same. Some RTR's come with brushless motors too - it's all about your budget really, the sky's the limit.
Just remember, you don't have to spend that much to have a good laugh..!
P.S. it's club night tonight - if you want to have a go with one come down to the track....you can try mine! |
Edited by - grasshopper on 24 August 2010 09:28:20 |
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frecklychimp
Average Member
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Posted - 24 August 2010 : 09:13:31
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As long as its 1/10th scale, running SCT wheels and tyres then you are welcome.
You can modify it as much as you like, but putting silly motors in it will make it hard to drive at first, they have unique handling characteristics.
I would like to run a brushless set up now, but have raced SCT every week for months, so used to the way the trucks drive.
Basically, use 'kit' motor with LiPo batteries and if you can drive it well you will not be left behind (much!)
The Losi Strike is a good starter, they have a few weaknesses out of the box but they are also cheap, the other trucks will have their weaknesses too but no r/c car is perfect, fast and bulletproof out of the box.
The Strike has a mid mounted motor so is well balanced, can be set up well and jumps flat, i raced one for 4 months and would recommend one.
I now race a Traxxas Slash, they are very strong, don't handle as neutral, suspension rolls a lot more in corners but i like it so far and haven't been beaten with it... yet! It runs the same motor as the Strike but is a bit quicker on acceleration due to gear ratios.
Phil let me have a blast with his Associated SC10 and it seems very good, very smooth out of the box but speed and duration not so good as Phil was running cobwebbed old batteries that were past their best, its rumoured that its now ballistic with new batteries, hopefully tonight there will be some close racing.
There are other trucks available: HPI Blitz, Hong Nor, Kyosho, Ansmann, Maverick, X Factory etc etc, haven't seen or tried these, some of them are 4WD which will be run in a seperate class if a few start showing, personally i think 4WD will take some of the fun out of the class but may be easier to drive(or should be)
Hope this helps, Mark.
Its good fun racing, be prepared to be randomly taken out by other trucks and to rub bumpers and bodyshells with the other lads and laugh it off because it is not the cleanest racing, just by the way they handle there will be contact.
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buzznitro
New Member
United Kingdom
17 Posts |
Posted - 24 August 2010 : 21:27:23
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wow!!
Great replies gents thanks learnt alot already.
Tried to get down tonight but due to work could not get.
I will be there HOPEFULLY next week, and once again thanks.
steve |
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beddo
New Member
United Kingdom
37 Posts |
Posted - 25 August 2010 : 14:42:52
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I bought myself a RTR Blitz which came stock. Ive dumped the stock motor/esc for an 9t EZ-run brushless system (£60 from HongKong), a pair of 30c 5000mah Zippy hardcase LiPo's, swapped the steering servo for a faster Futaba job and dropped my Spekky Rx in there.
On our grass track, its nigh on impossible to keep it from fishtailing there is so much power, especially with the stock tyres.
RCshortcourse.com have some really helpfull forums, especially for the Blitz as the designer seems to spend half his life on there!!
Cant wait to try mine out at Gonerby sometime fairly soon.... |
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grasshopper
Senior Member
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Posted - 25 August 2010 : 14:52:20
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they say that power corrupts - and there you have it......too much power - leave it as stock!
I had issues with too much power and not enough traction (and iffy skill - got that in before you lot do!!), it got to the stage on our damp astro last night where I was just coasting into the corners and opening up when pointing in the right direction on the way out.
Beddo, keep weekend of 26th Sept. free - there's short course racing at our place then - see the home page! |
Edited by - grasshopper on 25 August 2010 14:54:26 |
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frecklychimp
Average Member
852 Posts |
Posted - 26 August 2010 : 00:15:21
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Was it damp last night Phil?
didn't notice it, my tyres were dry all night!
Your SC10 was tail happy with the extra oomph from the batteries though, will let you have that one!
Sure i read somewhere that a bit of extra toe in on the rear helps that on the SC10, not sure if it will be by different hubs or rear lower arm bracket though, maybe a bit of both if its anything like the old Losi XX or XXX set up.
Would be nice to see how a Blitz handles the A1 track, haven't had one round it yet.
Have only tried the Losi Strike with a fast brushless motor, it handled pretty much the same, just light on the front causing understeer, still driveable and very quick. We had a Hong Nor 4wd SCT down a few weeks back with a silly brushless combo and it fishtailed down the straight very badly, my stock rtr Slash kept up with it with no problems, in fact was pulling a fair amount of time on it out of corners and on the dirt section. |
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beddo
New Member
United Kingdom
37 Posts |
Posted - 27 August 2010 : 15:00:16
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Originally posted by grasshopper
Beddo, keep weekend of 26th Sept. free - there's short course racing at our place then - see the home page!
No can do matey, I'll only just be back from the US :( |
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grasshopper
Senior Member
1652 Posts |
Posted - 27 August 2010 : 15:02:41
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Ahh! you international jet-setter's have it rough!
Never mind mate, you'll have to book in for a winter weekend event instead.
Safe journey, and watch out for dem there Red-necks! |
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Tnx king
Junior Member
United Kingdom
331 Posts |
Posted - 08 September 2010 : 18:30:40
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I am looking at getting a brushless setup now i am informed that a 10.5 is quick or should i go bollistic and get an 8.5 has anyone tried any of these and if so what would you recommend ?
cheers
Ben |
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frecklychimp
Average Member
852 Posts |
Posted - 08 September 2010 : 19:37:18
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Lewis's 10.5 set up last week was stupid fast, couldn't do a lap with it without cartwheeling off of everything, wheelied full length of straight everytime!
It was better when he played with the programmer and toned its 'punch' down but it was still silly and too hard to drive fast, wouldn't go any quicker than a 10.5, will just be undriveable, they wheelspin on the astro with stock kit motors in!
He is running a 13.5 now which runs really well, his Slash had loads of acceleration over standard but my stock one was a bit quicker on the straight, probably gearing though.
I'm quite happy with my kit 12T standard brushed 550, its quick enough and easy to drive, bit slow out of corners, but pulls wheelies with LiPo's in. only problem is it won't last very long cos it is brass bushed and has had 8.4V put through it, think i'll just get a modified brushed motor when it dies, nothing silly though.
Phil's SC10 seemed rapid last night with his better cell packs, think he was getting wheelspin problems too.
problem we've noticed last 2 tues nights is if the astroturf is slightly damp with the dew from temperature dropping then there is no grip in the corners and you have to really feather throttle in or they spin out, its great fun but pretty impossible to control the slides with geared diffs.
Hoping that the minispike tyres come in from CML soon, should work really well on the track, maybe too much grip. |
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buzznitro
New Member
United Kingdom
17 Posts |
Posted - 09 September 2010 : 06:42:54
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| Great report Freckly, just proves no need for mod stuff all the time??hey!! |
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Tnx king
Junior Member
United Kingdom
331 Posts |
Posted - 09 September 2010 : 20:33:32
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I must say i have had a go down the track only a very short go on my whistle stop tour back to Grantham. I think my motor is not working properly as i could not get any wheel spin really was flat out for 70% of the track.
Now it may be that i have not raced against simular trucks and so can not compare the speed ect.
I have used the brushed standard motor now 7 times .. Maybe it needs new brushes ect good clean but it definately seems not to have the power..
The track was very good and the new editions to it works really well ..
I am back for 2 weeks on tuesday what is the last tuesday you will be racing ? can i make it on 21st will you still be racing on that night ? |
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Tnx king
Junior Member
United Kingdom
331 Posts |
Posted - 30 September 2010 : 20:32:44
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can anyone tell me about gearing ?
I have just looked at the pinion and spur and i have got a 16/87 setup which apparantlymeans my gear ratio is going to be 14.14 so what does the 14.14 mean i take it is slow ! I am thinking of going to 21/87 with a 10.5 brushless which will make it 10.77 would that be better ? |
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