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TheStuntman
Junior Member

United Kingdom
130 Posts

Posted - 07 July 2007 :  21:12:05  Show Profile
Thought I would start a new thread for suggestions on the use of the track.
I will start the ball rolling with my suggestion.
A beginners night or weekend for people who just brought a buggy/truck or have no experience of racing and are apprehensive of racing on a Tuesday until they have had some practice, So they could come to the track get some advice and practice around the track and gain some confidence.

grasshopper
Senior Member

1652 Posts

Posted - 07 July 2007 :  22:23:41  Show Profile
An excellent idea Stuntman - what we would need is a list of volunteers that can man the track and help these learners.

For those attending - would you recommend making a day charge if they are 'newbies' or not fully paid up members ?
It might seem mercenary - but the club needs the funds to sustain itself.
And on those days would we be wise to limit the track usage to learners only? - I know that some time, more 'able' drivers can be a bit intimidating.

Which days / evening would you have in mind, and how would you suggest advertising it?

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knightley
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Kyrgyzstan
183 Posts

Posted - 07 July 2007 :  23:24:46  Show Profile  Click to see knightley's MSN Messenger address
i would personally love this idea, aslong as its thursday or a weekend.
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grasshopper
Senior Member

1652 Posts

Posted - 08 July 2007 :  00:07:12  Show Profile
There you go Dave, first customer!
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Posted - 08 July 2007 :  09:24:25  Show Profile
yes.that is a good idea count me in.
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grasshopper
Senior Member

1652 Posts

Posted - 08 July 2007 :  10:26:24  Show Profile
Having given Dave's idea more thought, having extra evenings /weekend sessions would acheive several things - allow those that need tuition or practice, track time without the pressure of racing. It'll allow us (the more experienced) a chance to pass on some knowledge and 'track etiquette' that some of us have compliained about where 'newbies' are concerned.
This helps the club, gaining us an excellent reputation of care and consideration towards members both new and existing.

the resultant increase in membership and the fees/subs will allow us to advance other more expensive track work that's required.

Along with this, there should be an allowance made for the rest of the membershgip to use the track to test cars and set-ups, this is something that's not always available on a Tuesday race night - I suggest that this would be free to members and chargable to visitors on a day rate....Once again volunteer members to control those days would be necessary, what do you think?
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buggyrunner
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United Kingdom
526 Posts

Posted - 08 July 2007 :  10:37:27  Show Profile  Click to see buggyrunner's MSN Messenger address
As you say Phil club needs funds,again really you need to charge members for using the track maybe a few quid.But to increase the membership wouldn't that put racers off if it goes up too much?
Again agree with members using the track for setting up but non members should pay a little more as their is a few non members who race on tues.

If the club looks at using the track at weekends why not have 1 day for beginners and the other day for members to use.
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ads
New Member

25 Posts

Posted - 08 July 2007 :  14:33:47  Show Profile
i would use these lessons also i could help buildthe track and put a lil money towards it
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TheStuntman
Junior Member

United Kingdom
130 Posts

Posted - 08 July 2007 :  17:42:56  Show Profile
Everyone appears to be in agreement on this one, So how about names of volunteers and suggestions on evening or weekends or both.
I will volunteer plus suggest Thursday evening as a purley newbie event chargable say £5 and every second Sunday as a Test/Bash/Beginner day members free everyone else £5. Obviously as the Thursday's progress you will get less beginners so this could develop into a test/bash evening.

As a seperate thought are we going to have a group of members who can use the timing equipment so that when Chris is unavailable racing can continue.
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buggyrunner
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United Kingdom
526 Posts

Posted - 08 July 2007 :  19:19:41  Show Profile  Click to see buggyrunner's MSN Messenger address
On the last point stuntman that as been mentioned to Chris about being able to learn the setup of booking in and racing.

I can do sundays when i'm not working which is every other sunday and i'll help on a thursday if that day is going to be used
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grasshopper
Senior Member

1652 Posts

Posted - 08 July 2007 :  23:12:02  Show Profile
All seems fine in theory Dave, might do to see if Dave the Mx man has a calendar of events that we would be better off NOT clashing with, Thursday seems sensible - newbie attends, practices, breaks car, repairs over weekend - races Tuesday - sorted.

Hopefully as Thursday's progress - we'll keep getting new people as word spreads and Steve sells more off-road cars.
As regards the timing gear - speak to Chris Spendlove and see what happens some of the gear is shared between Grantham Nitro and Newark Electric.

Buggyrunner - check out the 'membership fees' thread for the answer to your comment.

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Tnx king
Junior Member

United Kingdom
331 Posts

Posted - 08 July 2007 :  23:14:09  Show Profile
of coarse will help when i can but can not commit to any set times as of yet.. will speak to you on tuesday night.
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simon8433176
New Member

United Kingdom
58 Posts

Posted - 09 July 2007 :  18:03:45  Show Profile
Hi all.
Right, I stand to get my head bitten off here but this is how I see it

I’ve not paid my membership money to A1 simply because what would I gain by doing it? A reduced rate for Tuesday meetings? No! Do non-members pay anymore for Tuesday evenings? No! So I might aswel keep the money in my pocket.

I did however join deerdale early on in the season, before A1's outside track started. One of the benefits of being a member there means that you, as a member get to use the track for free when ever you want too.
As I understand it A1 are looking at the possibility of charging existing members a fee for using the track they themselves maintain. Sounds a bit like biting the hand that feeds you to me!
I mean, Dad takes his two son’s down to the track on a Saturday lets say. He has paid up as a member as have his sons, and then pays for example £3 each for using the track (£9). Lets say he manages to do this every other weekend (25x9= £225).
Or alternatively he could join another club, pay their membership and drive all year for free.
Which would you chose?

I think the answer to the club revenue subject might be to simply put on more races. To advertise to a wider audience and get the Sunday’s going before the winter sets in and we cant. Not just to charge members every time they want to use the track.

I think the idea about having something for beginners is good and may encourage more members. But why does it have to be on a separate night? Can they not just have their own heat on a Tuesday? That way the timing gear etc is already there, and so to are the “experienced racers”.
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TheStuntman
Junior Member

United Kingdom
130 Posts

Posted - 09 July 2007 :  18:31:44  Show Profile
Iam not biting anyones head off here but can we not go off topic all the thread is about is suggestions for using the track to its fullest potential.
Membership fees etc are being discussed in other threads.

If having a beginners night on Tuesdays along with the racing is a suggestion ok lets discuss it.
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grasshopper
Senior Member

1652 Posts

Posted - 09 July 2007 :  20:47:37  Show Profile
Dave's suggestion -and I'm sure he'll correct me if I'm wrong - is to allow a 'no pressure' situation to exist for those who have never raced, or even used a radio controlled car to come down and get used to keeping his/her car on a track without any hassle.

We've all seen the Race nights where there is free practice time and the 'hotshot trash it to death' driver piles into the beginner and rants that his car's been broken by a newbie. The extra learner's night is a confidence builder - and allows people to wean themselves into racing at a gentler pace. The timing gear is not essential on these nights - but volunteer helpers are...

Edited by - grasshopper on 09 July 2007 21:12:05
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knightley
Junior Member

Kyrgyzstan
183 Posts

Posted - 09 July 2007 :  20:50:15  Show Profile  Click to see knightley's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by grasshopper



We've all seen the Race nights where there is free practice time and the 'hotshot trash it to death' driver piles into the beginner and rants that his car's been broken by a newbie. The extra learner's night is a confidence builder - and allows people to wean themselves into racing at a gentler pace.




So this happens on a regular occasion then does it lol
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