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davecorah
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United Kingdom
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 Posted - 04 December 2011 : 18:47:32
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seems we have some ideas developing in toms thread about "super rallycross),
so lets stick em all in here and put them together so we can start working things out about what we all would like to see and anything that should be discussed.
im presuming from various chats with chris regarding sct nationals/carnage that we will be running the trucks on the new track more than the 10th track which frees up track designs for that track too so it can be more focused on the buggys if wanted. and since 1/8th tracks suit the scts more due to size and handling characteristics seems sensible to incorporate them into the mix too |
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Tnx king
Junior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 December 2011 : 18:53:19
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| Yeah got some ideas on track position and posible merge but will post a design when finished to see what you all think !! |
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davecorah
Junior Member
United Kingdom
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davecorah
Junior Member
United Kingdom
342 Posts |
Posted - 04 December 2011 : 18:56:46
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shame we dont have the american weather for dirt though |
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Tnx king
Junior Member
United Kingdom
331 Posts |
Posted - 04 December 2011 : 19:23:06
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My idea would be to have a like a cross over which is like out of james bond film where it makes your car spin in the air, but when driving you get the choice to go round and under it or take the direct root over it !!
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grasshopper
Senior Member
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Posted - 04 December 2011 : 19:50:30
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| A point to consider.... At the Uk Endurance event I took the oportunity of talking to various people regarding our current 1/8th track - a lot of past visitors enjoyed it because it was laid out well with a lot of fast track parts with limited jumps - not everyone wants to be airborne...if they did they'd have bought a 'plane! |
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TomTom
Average Member
Kyrgyzstan
596 Posts |
Posted - 04 December 2011 : 20:11:09
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There is a plan floating around on here that Ady and Ryan made. From what I remember it seemed to be a nice balanced track but I think the post has been lost in the ether. Perhaps if one of them reads this they can re post it.
My biggest gripe with the old track was that it had too many 90 and 180 degree bends. The first bit up to the raised corner was great, after that it got a bit too repetitive. When we laid that track out I think we got a bit too obsessed with making it a long lap. I think the minimum lap length is 300m. No matter how long the track is you will still only be racing 5 or 10 minutes. I say sacrifice some distance for a more flowing track with adequate marshall room. Be sensible with the jumps. Try and have it 50/50 with flat flowing sections and jumpy bits to make it appeal to everyone.
I also think that whilst a plan is a good idea, it should be used as a guide only. Again, we laid the old track out direct from a plan drawn on a grid, hence the many 90 and 180 degree bends. I think that just walking around with a 4m stick and some marker will make a way nicer track to drive.
Of course, another thing that needs addressing. Are we making the track a permanant layout like before, or covering the whole area in astroturf and building it like the new 1/10 track? If the latter, then all what I said above goes out the window!!! I kept going because I forgot about how we did the 1/10 track!!
P.S. Whatever we do, from the experience gained from the 1/10 build, I think its within our capabilities to make one of the best 1/8th astro tracks in the country. We have a prime location and a busy MX track next to us which WILL generate interest and maybe even get some new members. |
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Tnx king
Junior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 December 2011 : 20:29:32
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Tom very wise words
There are still 2 options, move the track completely and do like we did with the 1/10th but with plant to shift astro / or i was thinking do what we did with the 1/10th track on the old 1/8th track and imagimate ? the two together so for regionals nationalss we could have a bigger 1/10th and for the 1/8th we could encrouch on the 1/10th for the big meeting.
All tracks can be changed as and when using ians fantastic jumps on big meetings ect, just an idea ...
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TomTom
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Kyrgyzstan
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Posted - 04 December 2011 : 20:43:54
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Originally posted by ryan b
This is the 1/8th track layout plan at the moment.
The dark areas are table tops,jumps,raised sections and banked areas.
Please leave comments/feeback on what you like and dislike and if you have any ideas or think somethink should be added or taken out please say now before the work starts
Thankyou Mr Birkett.
I think the idea was to have it seperate to the 1/10 track hence why its more of a square layout than rectangular.
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admin
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 December 2011 : 20:57:45
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Do you remember the original track? Before the extension to the right,
http://youtu.be/IJhp1LD4z2Y
look how short the pit lane straight is, with the first corner just at the end of the pit ramp  |
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admin
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 December 2011 : 21:04:56
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quote:
Originally posted by grasshopper
A point to consider.... At the Uk Endurance event I took the oportunity of talking to various people regarding our current 1/8th track - a lot of past visitors enjoyed it because it was laid out well with a lot of fast track parts with limited jumps - not everyone wants to be airborne...if they did they'd have bought a 'plane!
I've always had the same comments from visiting drivers. They like the existing track because it's fast and not too technical. |
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TomTom
Average Member
Kyrgyzstan
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Posted - 04 December 2011 : 21:09:03
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| Back in the day when you needed an air filter. I can remember after one 5 minute heat the airfilter would be absolutely clogged and in the summer if you bought cheap tyres they would last 3 heats if you were lucky!!! It was nice to race on dirt at Coventry in the SCT nationals. For easy maintanance you cant beat astroturf, but for a good days racing there is nothing like a dirt track. Changes every race. |
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hpi_guy
Junior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 December 2011 : 21:10:20
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| What about a loop? That would make interesting laps |
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davecorah
Junior Member
United Kingdom
342 Posts |
Posted - 04 December 2011 : 22:06:17
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ok, so viewpoints so far seem to be that we want a nice fast flowing track with not too many obstacles, obviously we will be using astro as its a low maintenance cleaner solution, same as tom coventry was a really good track but means completely different approach to racing both maintenace and setup wise, we would all love dirt track but if it rained it would be alot worse than wet astroturf,
sorry will no loops, except the one that counts the laps,
do like ryan and adi's design is there a way we can incorporate it into the banks that now surround the site seems a shame not too use them,
think the crossover idea is something that could be looked into if we can find away to use either a double or step down off the banking too use for the gap jump,
being able to join the two tracks together is a good idea but from a 1/8th point of view the 10th track is too tight so if they were combined it would have to be with a planned change so that not to restrict the bigger cars too much,
think in reality if possible that to keep the 1/8th where it is and astro the whole area with a mix of permanently shaped jumps bumps and obstacles incorporated into the initial astro laying same as 10th track, working from a general plan of layout to give an idea of placements, then once the area has been sculpted and astroed the layout can be tweaked and changed same as we did with the 10th |
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grasshopper
Senior Member
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Posted - 04 December 2011 : 23:44:18
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I think the original idea of NOT usiing the 1/10th track as part of the 1/8th would serve best - at least if you were to run a mixed evening then no-one has to mess about moving bits to mark the different tracks.
Creating a whole new track on the other side of the new rostrum has been mentioned as well as re-hashing the original track. You'd all have to decide - quickly - and get it all into place if you've any intention of having a summer of nitro in 2012....it'll be here before you know it. |
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ianholt
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 December 2011 : 06:51:23
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The way I see it is that the car park is buggered now because of all that muck that was dumped on it so if we can get some big plant on the job and do it in one go lets move the 1/8th track. Huge banked corners and loads of earth already there, maybe enough to raise the track a foot or two? If the jumps where carefully thought out and positioned in the right places we could astro the whole area and track could be changed for big events etc very easily. The biggest pain would be moving the rostrum!
Robin said he would do it last time we spoke to him. |
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