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davecorah
Junior Member
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 05 December 2011 : 16:13:46
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| do people think we should have a vote about it on tuesday? and make a decision to move it or not, at least then plans can be properly drawn out to suit the area its going in |
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Tnx king
Junior Member
United Kingdom
331 Posts |
Posted - 05 December 2011 : 18:01:34
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| dave is you can put an a4 sheet together with ten ballet sheets on or something then when members are booking in we can give ti to them and get them to hand back in by end of night if you want !!! It will only be done by members and i am glad about the interest in the 1/8th again to be honest |
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TomTom
Average Member
Kyrgyzstan
596 Posts |
Posted - 05 December 2011 : 19:24:42
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Unfortunately I wont be there tomorrow night so Ill throw more views in here.
Firstly I think the 1/8 and 1/10 track should be kept seperate. Nearly every Tuesday night last summer there were near misses with 1/8 and 1/10. Granted its only practice but Im surprised no cars got wrecked to be honest. You could session the practices but it wont work.
With regards to moving the track I think it would be wise to leave it where it is. Half of the astro is already down, the rostrum wont need moving much and with nitro cars there is always a chance of a runaway. Worst case scenario moving the track to the proposed area, car runs away, launches over the bank and takes out a little kid on his bike. I know its incredibly slim chance of happening but still? Also we dont know what their plans are for that bit of land. |
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Tnx king
Junior Member
United Kingdom
331 Posts |
Posted - 05 December 2011 : 19:56:37
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| Thanks tom |
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davecorah
Junior Member
United Kingdom
342 Posts |
Posted - 05 December 2011 : 20:14:34
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| ok will draw up a signing sheet one side to move it one side for it too stay in current place, like phil said before we know it it will be getting to late tohave the track ready for the warm weeks so need to get things moving even if its only drawing up a proper plan for the groundwork and obstacles so we can get stuff going in the new year, |
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admin
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
1189 Posts |
Posted - 05 December 2011 : 20:58:58
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| Gents, do we have proper measurements for both areas? |
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davecorah
Junior Member
United Kingdom
342 Posts |
Posted - 05 December 2011 : 21:02:52
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| think ben took some measurements of the car park space, not sure about the current area |
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admin
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
1189 Posts |
Posted - 05 December 2011 : 21:14:36
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I'm not sure it's as simple as saying do we move it or not!
There are pro's and cons to both options... It would be worth getting all the facts in order for both options so we can make an INFORMED decision, rather than a rash one. I agree speed is of the essence though. |
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davecorah
Junior Member
United Kingdom
342 Posts |
Posted - 05 December 2011 : 21:22:45
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| no problem, rather than taking a vote this week is it worth getting together to discuss all the details with any members that are interested in the 1/8th side of things, that way we can try and come to a decision as a club as to what happens |
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Tnx king
Junior Member
United Kingdom
331 Posts |
Posted - 05 December 2011 : 22:05:11
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| no not since the reworks have been done i am happy to bring the wheel down if someones fancys measuring it !!!!! (dave ) |
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admin
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
1189 Posts |
Posted - 07 December 2011 : 21:27:57
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I managed to get this still from one of Ian's aerial shots taken at the end of September.
Not the best but if you squint a little you can see just how much wasted land we have on the existing track location, especially on the right hand side up to the access road.
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ianholt
Average Member
United Kingdom
750 Posts |
Posted - 08 December 2011 : 06:32:58
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Well, from that shot it looks like the existing area is loads bigger! If it was designed well we could still have a good straight next to the access road.
After talking to a couple of people on Tuesday evening I think it should be left where it is.It would be nice to have a break from doing so much track work, for one year atleast!
We could pull the astro off (so to speak) and build jumps etc using the excess muck already on site and cover the whole area with astro. Job done, and it could be changed from week to week if needed.
There are advantages to be gained from moving the track but it is a lot of work and expense, do we realy have the time, money or energy? |
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grasshopper
Senior Member
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Posted - 08 December 2011 : 09:36:22
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I, personally, am running out of energy - being in on these continuing projects from day one - and I'm not getting any younger!
Questions you have to ask yourselves are:
how many people can you depend on?
how much plant can we access, reliably at the right price?
where are we going to source the necessary materials - astro being the big thing, there's loads of spare muck and spoil on site rammed into over wide banks.... but all the spare stuff we had has been 'disposed' of.
We're getting into the lousy weather part of the year - it'll get wet and muddy, if you want any form of summer season it all needs to be done by May...
Re-laying the existing track with improvements, would seem the best idea to me. There is quite a lot of wasted infield area - and the new wide banks can be incorporated into the new layout to create raised sections, banked corners - and as Mark even suggested, an alternative drivers rostrum.
I know we can do it, we've done it every year since we've been there! the hardest thing is we have to do it better. The 1/1oth track laid by the Chimp and his volunteers has raised the bar quite considerably - and the new 1/8th track has to be on par, or better. It just takes a lot of organising - money and willpower, anybody want to volunteer as project manager?
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reg
Junior Member
Christmas Island
427 Posts |
Posted - 08 December 2011 : 18:47:17
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| i think the dirt track lay out was the best(i would though coz i helped do it all)it was easy for new drivers to get round,and want to come back,but still challanging enough to keep the top guys and girls on there toes,i dont think you guys could build a bad track,the 10th track is well thought out,the indoor track is awsome, |
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davecorah
Junior Member
United Kingdom
342 Posts |
Posted - 08 December 2011 : 19:48:22
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from looking at the picture and thinking about timings effort involved costs labour, seems only sensible to me that the track stays where it is but is kept as a seperate entity to the 1/10th track,
in its current location it has got plenty of room plus the extra banking now which can be incorporated into the designs and layouts, also means we dont have to move the rostrum and the pit ramp can be rebuilt rather than completely moved, plenty of room for a straight alongside the access road and along the back where there is currently a not so straight straight!, if we can do similar to hiw we did the 10th track and get the basic jumps yumps and bumps laid out and astro the whole area we are free to move the track around and have a bit of differentiation to the layout to keep us all on out toes,
i suggest keeping the tracks seperate for couple of reasons, as was pointed out in an earlier post, during practice time there has been occasions when 1/8th and 1/10th cars have come very close to having big crashes becasuse of running at the same time especially when trying to setup a nitro engine on the straight, doesnt make it easy to practice a hot lap if your worrying about crushing someones £500 mix of carbon silicon and rubber with a +-4kg buggy or truggy, as we all know the 1/8th would come off much better. also im sure the areas of the 1/10th track which the nitro cars run on would soon get covered in a layer of oil from our smokey oily pipes which wouldnt be very good for the little cars either,
only real issue i can see about them being seperate is the timing loop for the 1/8th track.....chris??
obviously im still new to all this compared to you guys im just trying to get some ideas and plans moving |
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